me too, Gloria, but my family is Dan the cats and me with a few friends up here, all our family is hrs away, and now my daughters new husband and their daughter are highly allergic to...CATS. so looks like we make the trip there...I wanted to be the Grammas house they love to come to, we have 10 acres,a nd wild animals and horses and gardens and water... all things that would be fun.... but not when you spent hrs driving up and home and have sports etc. so we make do with our "family of furkins and friends up here... and plan the trips when everyone can get a day cleared at the same time.

but WE count, too, so I did this because I have always wanted a lodge looking den.